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Hmmm a third Everything and Anything thread huh? Been out for quite a while I guess.

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Jasmin
Inexperience and idiocy are two very different things. As for the purse being stolen if thief had really wanted it it would not have mattered if the door was locked or not. Its incredibly easy to do a smash and grab and then a car window would've been lost as well.

Ether, you may now place your hands on the image on the screen and your wish to have your hands on it will be fullfilled. ;)

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Kinda doubt its a world record since I've known a couple of guys that use the "statistical method" of getting dates (basically its keep asking around (even the same people several times) until someone agrees to go out on a date with them). I just shake my head and let them make fools of themselves.

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Been to New York City before, lots of light lots of noise, and lots of tall buildings. Really was not all that interesting to me.
I want to go to Japan (it'll be easy to spot me at 6'6" (~198cm) tall), Europe (go and tour all the castles), Belize (diving, Mayan ruins, and swinging through pristine jungles to boot) and a few other places.

Belly Dancers huh? Hmmm, wonder if I could get one of my girl friends to do belly dancing, there are a couple that would look really good doing it.

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Sounds like descriptions of the Soul Reaper Squad captains from anime Bleach.
BTW has anyone seen AppleSEED Ex Machina and was it any good? I'll probably pick up a copy anyway since I love Masmune Shirow's art.

Welcome back jasmin how was it hobnobbing in one of the richest cities in the world? I think it would be kinda cool to check out Dubai at least once even though I'd stick out like a sore thumb.

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Well if you are looking for mythical figures,
It'd be nice to get a date with Aphrodite (Venus), hang out and play World of Warcraft with Ares (Mars), do some target practice with Zeus (Jupiter), run a few laps with Hermes (Mercury), or do some SCUBA diving with Posidon (Neptune). LOL

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*Dumps pitcher of ice water on nimiru.* Calm down you are starting to smoke lil one.

Ha I guess I escaped the stereotyping part.
Yeah I guess it is getting a little more lively.

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Quote by oceansoulNope those were supplied by the US and its friends because they Iraq was opposing Iran who at the time were friendly with Russia.

Actually I have found no record of any transfer of chemical weapons to Iraq from the US or its allies. The closest thing I can find is remarks about several western companies selling large amounts of industrial chemicals to Iraq which were ostensibly for use in other industries than chemical weapons manufacture. Where is your source for the sale or transfer of actual chemical weapons to Iraq form the US or its allies? I noted that several of the industrial chemicals mentioned have a myriad of other uses while a few have limited uses.

Quote by oceansoulI do not feel that foresight should be perfect, it should not however take years to supply something that it was obviously needed after a few months.

On that I will agree. The military should be able to adapt to changing conditions much more quickly than it did. Unfortunately they had to go all the way through the government beauracarcy to do it.

Also if you are going to slam the US for the isolated actions of a few bad soldiers like in one of your earlier posts I suggest you take a look at what the other side has done as well.

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Quote by oceansoulReally? Then why are the soldiers sent to Iraq equipped with substandard protective gear? And why are their vehicles not equipped to withstand roadside explosives?

Actually hey were sent with standard equipment based on the threats they were expecting from the organization they were goin up against (another army in this case). The other threats are what we call emergent threats (i.e. they came about while we were already there) and the equipment was updated (although not a quickly as it should have been) to deal with those threats. You seem to beleive that foresight is 20/20 when the opposite is really what is true.

As for the WMDs. Iraq had the capability to create chemical weapons (this is demonstrated by their use by the old regime on their own people) because chemical weapons arre frightenly easy to make for any country. The problem is they were only a threat to their neighbors (and their own citizens) as they lacked an effective delivery system.

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*Sends a squad of scary guys in white coats over to take Ganjamus away to a nice white padded room* lol

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Yeah Airlevel is right you are pretty tiny at 35kg. I've carried almost twice your weight on 50+ mile hikes in the mountains before without breaking much of a sweat.

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Quote by maverickmechanicThey are digging up dirt so they can personally attack you and avoid the issues. Of course, Conservatives do that too.

Nah thats all politicians. Remember they are all scum it just that some are greener than others.

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Well several of you are right in one respect. This is a very Liberal thread.

On the subject of George W. Bush.
1. Bad public speaker unless he is mad then he actually makes a pretty good speech.
2. His decision making needs work and he needs to find better people to keep him informed on things like the economy and world affairs (In reality his Dad was really a lot better at foreign relations).
3. Even though I may disagree with some of the decisions he has made I will respect the man for sticking to his guns and not falling over at the first hint of public or legislative disapproval (very unlike 95% of politicians as evidenced by quite a few of the current candidates for presidency).
4. He is very interested in keeping big business (including oil) happy as they were one of the groups that got him elected and then re-elected. He hasn't been totally successful partly due to the acts of the previous administration (unless you are totally clueless you would know that the economy does not turn on a dime or on an in office president for that matter) and partly due to his own mistakes (Bernake would not have been my first choice after Greenspan).
5. He has a very hard time dealing with Congress due to the partisan nature of that body (which by the way is the group that actually has the power to override the President and is the group responsible for most of the decisions dealing with this country)

On the subject of the Iraq war.
1. I agreed with the original reasoning to go in due to the presence of WMDs
2. I agreed with the reasoning to go in to remove Saddam Hussein from power (to those who don't know what this man and his followers were responsible for I suggest you attempt to find a semi-unbiased account of his life).
3. As to the question of whether or not the "intelligence" on the WMDs was a "lie" (as intimated by a few here), I don't know because I don't have access to the actual intelligence and neither do any of you (its still classified), but given my views on politicians I am not going to blindly believe the few that claim it is a lie either. You can thank Clinton for that level of uncertainty given his documented propensity for hamstringing our nations ability to covertly collect information.
4. I note that the thread is ignoring the Afghanistan side of the war. Not much to talk about there huh? One of the reasons its taking so much longer in Iraq is actually rather simple. The resistance in Iraq was a great deal more organized than in Afghanistan. I say was because most of that organization has been removed or its members have defected.
5. As for the oil question, I am not too certain but I believe that Iraq is producing and shipping that oil around the world (albeit at a much lower level than prior to the war but thats still a major accomplishment). I have no idea as to the status of oil trade between the US and Iraq as I have not looked into that area but I welcome anyone who wishes to send me verifiable information that there is some kind of "forced" arrangement between the oil producers in Iraq and the US.
6. I am not sold on the current plans of this administration in dealing with Iraq, nor do I think that the troops should be pulled out all at once (like several IMO incompetent Democrat individuals have so endorsed). It should be a gradual withdrawal and as smooth as possible in transitioning the governing of Iraq back to its people (who will need to step up and take leadership) in order to prevent a bloodbath from occurring due to the friction between Sunni and Shia sects (shedding blood over simple religious differences is so idiotic regardless of the religion involved) and to prevent Iran from trying to snip off a healthy piece of the country.

Off note but I love to see how so many people love to sit back and criticize the people/person in charge when in reality they could not begin to deal with the decisions or knowledge that those leaders have to deal with. Nor are most of those people (present company excluded of course, at least I hope you aren't that type) even making the attempt to find a solution to any the many problems around the world. They'd just rather sit back and b$#^$ and moan about it or follow the crowd (people in this country idiots as a group, its too bad they don't actually listen to the people telling them to think for themselves instead of just following along with the crowd.)

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Quote by PearceSheaThat aside, the issue is pretty simple and it gets cloudy by a lot of "what ifs." Is torture ever acceptable? It's really a yes or no answer. I dislike how often people skip this and go straight to the "well what if you thought he had a bomb etc etc" crap.

Actually its simpler than that. The question is really "Is torture ever the right thing to do?" and yes that is a yes or no answer to which I answer NO. However decisions are almost never that black and white and if you believe they are then I wish you the best but I don't think you will make it that far in life. The example given, that you have a problem with, is just that, an extreme example of an near infinite number of situations where the question of torture would come up. We simplify the situation for the sake of understanding but in reality its very complex.

As far as the acceptability of the act of torture, thats up to the individual, the culture, and the laws of the nation in question.

Quote by PearceSheaFrom there we get to when and where. My real problem with torture is the same as my problem with the death penalty. By this point in time it should be obvious to all that the Pentagon and the US armed forces are more than capable of their fair share of screwups. People held in Guatanamo for no apparent reason for over a year and then released without an apology, etc are a good example (then again, we have only the ex-con/prisoner's word...) but there are a great many others. So there are flaws in the system. Do we then find it acceptable to torture someone under these circumstances? Knowing that intelligence leading to the subject capture is questionable? Etc...

I won't argue the fact that screw-ups are made. It happens, if you know of a way to prevent it with 100% accuracy (heck even 85% total accuracy would be good) then I am all ears. Again another simplification in that you are lumping the entire group into one identical bucket. It just doesn't work that way.

Quote by PearceSheaGranted, the person in question may be a terrorist. They may not be. We know full well that there are no hard and fast rules as to how someone is identified to be a terrorist and how long they are held. You seem guilty of the exact thing you accuse others of - jumping to conclusions, but just on the opposite side of the issue.

OK that does seem true due to the way I phrased it so how about this (updates in caps)
"You assume that ALL OF these people (your "victims" of torture) are/were taken off the street with little to no evidence as to their complicity and you assume that the ALL OF THE people making the decisions whether or not to "torture" those individuals, do so arbitrarily. Both assumptions are wrong."
Does that fit better now that I am not lumping all situations into single bucket. It still applies however.

Quote by PearceSheaBeyond the fact that you are assuming that the terrorist in question is in fact already guilty (which is a fundamental problem with terrorism and a reason we do not allow it as part of the due process of a criminal investigation in the US... not just because a statement obtained under extreme duress is not valid in court -though it isn't- but because the US legal system's notion of justice is predicated on the idea that a person has to be _proven_ guilty and torture causes such duress on the human mind and body such that, if anything, the process of investigation would be _worse_ than imprisonment itself). And then we wind back up at the basic issue as to whether or not you are comfortable trusting military intelligence as to the viability of the suspect. It sounds as though you are. I don't know if I am.

Keep in mind that people captured during anti-terrorism activities are not typically citizens of the United States nor are they subject to our laws. They are not even really subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice yet you expect them to be treated as if they were our citizens or military personnel from another country? Thats kinda inconsistent. If you say OK then how about the laws of the nation where they were captured then in many cases that would more or less result in the death (given the nature of Islamic law) of the individual after being brutally tortured (NOT a part of Islamic law but considered acceptable by several of those cultures) for all the information they have.

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Quote by SanzoSaruHowever, torture usually means just breaking the prisoner for the sake of it, as exemplified in Guantanamo(where, for everyone's information, it usually is people taken out of their homes without explanations and with no rights and NO PROOF of being terrorists at all)

You're evidence for this statement is What? the media?, "other sources"?, the statements of the individuals at Guantanamo? I'd really like to see you back up that statement with cold hard verifiable proof.

Quote by SanzoSaruIf terrorists do not have rights...we would all live like barbarians...if you don't give them rights don't expect them to give them to you...and of course that would only trigger a response of "if they don't give me rights, I won't give hem either!". The barbanian circle of life would be finished.If we believe ourselves in the right for being more civilised and morally strong, we should exemplify, instead of throwing a temper tantrum like children

Unfortunately that argument only works for people who wish to stick their head in the sand and hope the problem goes away. Maybe you don't understand the concept of terrorism. Its basically "I wish to kill lots of people to frighten the rest into submitting to my views or wishes." Reality check, a terrorist never gives a d#$% about the people they kill. They don't care if those people were upright, honest, good people or evil, nasty, hurtful people, or anything in between.

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I don't think anyone agrees that torture is a good thing, however (this is to jack and bluesky) you are oversimplifying the issue.

There is a difference (and unfortunately its not going to change anytime in the foreseeable future) between taking the moral high ground and doing what is neccessary to protect others as well as yourself.

You assume that these people (your "victims" of torture) are/were taken off the street with little to no evidence as to their complicity and you assume that the people making the decisions whether or not to "torture" those individuals, do so arbitrarily. Both assumptions are wrong. I can't say it any clearer than that. Many of those "victims" were either captured in battle, captured in raids on known outposts, taken after being placed under extensive surveillance, or captured as targets of opportunity (when known wanted individuals surface in public).

Granted torture is a horrible act however, would you honestly take the chance between the death of 100s, 1000s, 10,000s, or more people versus the emotional/psychological/physical scarring or even death of one individual known to be involved.

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Hmmm, well this is gonna be a protracted fight ain't it?
Both parties now know the rules (kinda makes it more of a duel since it has rules) and now they have both gone off to plan their attacks.

Trust me jasmine and forte after working for just a year or two you will be wondering why you left school where at least you could have fun some of the time. Unless you get a job that you truly enjoy.

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Quote by XRW175P6MQ4May death follow you wherever you go and darkness hide your footsteps.
May the sky rain fire and blood of the fallen flow in rivers.
Let the black portal open and show you its glory.
And as the minions drag you into hell a thousand agonized souls scream,
Would you like fries with that?

You work at McDonalds don't you? Poor soul.
OK my moment of identifying with your pain is over. Now supersize me! and don't skimp on the bacon and cheese.

Quote by airlevelOn the contrary facts are only meaningless when they are in absolute truth. Then nothing can be done to change it. Unless one proves a point. So facts are never completely meaningless. In other words, everyone is correct. Still, I know that you all know what I'm talking about > the five facts about yourself. Unless I'm dealing with mentally disabled people. Tag your it GearStalker05.


Fact #1: This thread has absolutely nothing to do with facts.
Addendedum to Fact #1: That is unless you are talking about the club The Fact.
Fact #2: There are no facts.
Addendum to Fact #2: Unelss of course you are talking about the addendum to Fact #1.
Fact #3: Dragons do not eat people. We merely chew in self defense. Beleive me you are what you eat and given what you people eat, Yuck!

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Porco Rosso was very good but my favorites (in order are) Princess Mononoke, Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind, and Laputa, Castle in the Sky, and Kiki's Delivery Service

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Kaname Chidori and Telethia Tesstarossa from Full Metal Panic.

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Quote by Mortiferatrinidad156Mnemeth-san! It's been a while, ne? *waves* Yep, ether and Jas-chan are gonna fight...dunno how it all started though, meybe because of the pics or something...-__

Yeah I took a little break went and did some other stuff. You know swooping down low and fast over unsuspecting villages and the occasional shepherdess and then watching them cower in terror or run for their lives. Well there was that one idiot that tried shooting a ballista at me. I had to land and have a little talk with that idiot. He was taking an ax to the ballista when I left :)

Quote by ether92Well, at least Mnemeth didn't take sides,

Huh, didn't I just bet on the gorilla?

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Betting on the fight between ether and jasmine huh?
Hmmm, I'll take 100 on the large gorilla that just jumped on top of ether and jasmine.
*watches in amusement as ether and jamsine are both tossed into a lake by a random gorilla.*

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Indifference is the worst. idiocy is so common that its expected but indifference really screws everyone including the individual thats indifferent.

The biggest problem is that people want everything given to them and they don't care what happens to the rest for the world. Society has become so self-centered that its paved its own path to its won destruction.

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Wow you mean I got the last post on the old thread. How the heck do they determine a thread is full? Ah well
Cute girls Cygno and Carlozz. As for me I like mine tall, Irish (the accent rocks), and redheaded

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